Friday, September 26, 2008

Live Blogging Debate


Watching CNN who is displaying a live reaction graph and showing scorecards for their pundits. Refresh frequently for the latest.

First impressions of CNN's presentation - Love it.

Intros - ok, how does CNN's Castellano give a negative score to McCain on waving to the crowd and shaking Obama's hand?

Obama - scores on first question by calling for CEO pay restrictions, but audience scores for Independents and Republicans dropped drastically when he goes negative on Bush. Interesting.

Neither candidate has addressed the actual first question.
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McCain signals he will vote for bailout.

Dems and independents pleased by McCain calling for the firing of SEC chair.
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independents again track downward when Obama criticises McCain on economic fundamentals comment.

Independents track up when McCain jokes about being able to hear Obama.
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Early CNN scorecards have Obama up by 5 to 4.
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Democrats track down when McCain criticises congress for wasting millions on studying bears, yes bears.
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Again Independents track dramatically down when Obama calls McCain more Bush. This negativity is not playing with the people Obama needs to win.
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Obama interrupts McCain and independents drop significantly.
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McCain says US business are taxed second highest in world. Doesn't seem to have an affect one way or the other with audience.
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McCain asks Obama to say what he defines as rich. Obama ignores. (I thought this was a foreign policy debate? Heard nothing but taxes and now health care)
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McCain pointing out his record of voting against tax increases and earmarks. Scoring with audience.
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Obama mentions drilling offshore and Independents track up. Take a hint Dems, the people want you to drill.
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Obama scores on energy independents. Says drill and explore alternatives. Looks like he's decided to embrace the Paris Hilton plan.
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Jim Lehrer says it sounds like neither candidate wants to change their economic policy based on bailout.

Obama tracks down when he stutters and tries to say he can't until they see the fallout from the bailout.

Obama says he's only considered "wildly liberal" because he opposes Bush. Again independents take offense and track down.
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Obama calls for end of war to save money. Audience seems to not care, track neither up or down, including democrat respondents.
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Where is the foreign policy? This debate theme has been hijacked. Obama is going to get to avoid discussing one of the most crucial issues of the day and one he is the weakest on. Ridiculous.
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Nearly half way point of debate. Not one foreign policy question in a foreign policy debate.
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Finally... what are the lessons of Iraq?

McCain says you can't have a failed strategy - duh!
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Dems and Independents track down when McCain says we are winning in Iraq.
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Independents don't like it when McCain criticises Obama for only going to Iraq as a campaign stunt.
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LOL. Obama says he has Biden to help him with foreign policy issues. So shouldn't we be voting for him for President and not you Obama?
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Obama says McCain wrong about thinking US would be greeted as liberators in Iraq. I guess those images of the iraqis pulling statues of Saddam down were imagined.
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McCain says Obama doesn't know the difference between a strategy and a tactic.
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Obama responds, yes I do.
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Obama calls for 16 month troop withdrawal and focus on Afghanistan.
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McCain reminds Obama wanted troops out last spring, before the surge. "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"
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Lehrer asks Obama should we increase troops in Afghanistan and if so, how much.

Yes, we do. Obama says. Gives no number. But seems to support McCain when he says we can't separate Iraq from Afghanistan.
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McCain says Obama needs to quit threatening attacks on Pakistan. Says we need the Pakistani people's support.
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McCain using specific incidents and locations in the war to make his point. Obama keeps calling Pakistan, pokistan.
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Obama gets McCain on singing songs about bombing Iran.
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Please stop saying pockeestan, Obama.
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How did this debate become all about Pakistan? We aren't at war with Pakistan. Seriously, I've heard more about Pakistan than Iraq at this point of the debate.
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Ugh, McCain says he supports Kosovo because of genocide. I guess he hasn't seen the news lately. That was all BS.
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Nothing seems to be moving the audience on way or the other this past 15 to 20 minutes.
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McCain tells story about soldiers mom who gave him a bracelet and asked him to not let her son's death be in vein. Obama says, literally, "I have a bracelet too."
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McCain, I've actually been to these places. I've seen what we need.
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On Iran -

McCain says they are a threat to Israel if the get nukes. (why is that our problem?)

Says we can not have a second holocaust...
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Obama says Iranian Republican Guard is a terrorist organization.
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Agrees with McCain about preventing a nuclear Iran for Israel.
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CNN scorecards mostly even, except for Paul Begala, the democrat hack. Since these pundits are mostly democrats and would thereby favor Obama, that bodes well for McCain's performance thus far.
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Obama says we need to talk to Iran, but not Akmadinejad or however you spell it. Says he is not the most powerful man in Iran. McCain giggles.

Obama calls Iran a rogue regime. So much for honoring other nations sovereignty.
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McCain says I am not going to set the WhiteHouse meeting schedule before I'm elected. "I don't even have a seal yet," referring to Obama's faux presidential seal. Crowd audibly laughs.
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McCain says okay, so we are supposed to sit down with Ackmadenijad and he says "i am going to wipe israel of the map," and we say, "no you are not?" Crowd again audibly laughs.
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Obama calls for Georgia and other soviet satellites to join NATO. Ugh, talking about driving Russia to war.

So far Obama has agreed with McCain on nearly every foreign policy issue. Where is the change?

Foreign policy was the one thing I thought Obama still had a lead on McCain in. But he is sounding more like a Neo-con than a democrat.
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McCain drops names of cities and leaders through the former Soviet Union.

Lehrer asks do you see thinks anything differently than McCain. Obama responds, and I kid you not, "No, I don't."
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Obama turns talk about Russia and Georgia to investing in energy alternatives. Foreign policy, Obama, foreign policy.
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Obama keeps trying to shout down McCain and interupt when he's talking about nuclear energy. ---
Likelihood of another 9/11 -

McCain much less than it was on 9/11.

Obama, we are safer in some ways, but have a long way to go. Sites transit and ports as weakness for suitcase nukes, but ignores border.
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Obama says root of terrorism in Pockeestan. Credits McCain on the torture issue.
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Dems and Independents not liking McCain saying the key to defeating Al Qaeda is Iraq.
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Lehrer to Obama, Do you the same linkages as McCain?

"There is no doubt."
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I've been involved in nearly every major foreign policy crisis in the past 20 years. Experience matters, says McCain.

Veterans know he will take care of them, he says.

I don't need any on the job training.
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Obama, "My father came from Kenya." He believed no country in the world offered the opportunity of you can make it as America did. Children throughout the world still feel that way, he says. So why then does he say the rest of the world hates us?
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Lehrer signs off from Oxford, Mississippi. Candidates congratulate each other, "good job."
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Our first impressions. Obama agrees with McCain, so much for change.

Post debate analysis:

Obama said he agreed with McCain 8 times.

McCain said Obama was wrong 7 times.

Story of the debate.
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Amazing! Obama campaign admits defeat, but says McCain didn't get big win and that's a win for them.

Obama campaign now changes tune. Now just saying they won, despite the concensus amoung pundits of a tie or slight McCain win.

Our opinion, you can't run on change if you agree with your opponent on nearly every foreign policy issue.

10:13 pm cst: Kissinger goes public, says McCain right, Obama wrong. No meeting between presidents between US and Iran. CNN points out both candidates got the Iranian Revolutionary Guard incorrect, calling it the Republican guard.

10:14 pm cst: drudgereport poll right after debate, McCain won 73% to 25% over Obama, 2% say neither.

10:42 pm cst: Fox news poll McCain win 82%, Obama 16%, Neither 1%.

10:45 pm cst: MSNBC poll McCain 35%, Obama 50%, tie 6.3%, not sure 7.9% (wouldn't not sure and tie be the same? Or are these voters just waiting for someone to tell them who they should think won?)

2 comments:

chris said...

Nice updates. You were certainly busy tonight.

In my opinion, Obama should have clearly defeated McCain. He is younger, healthier, taller and more attractive. He also graduated from Harvard at the top of his class while McCain was 5th from the bottom of his class. Obama is supposedly the second coming with a magical charisma and charm.

If the best he could do against a broken down man like McCain is a tie or slight defeat, then he lost big time.

Tony said...

I just wanted to note your work on blogging the damn thing. Nicely done, I had problems staying awake and would have just liked to have seen their note cards instead.

Linking this.